The Comics 8 Ball 1.20.14: Top 8 Most Hated Comic Book Writers
Reader feedback and boy did ya’ll feel some type of way about my picks from last week.
APrince66: For some reason, Glenns ending in Walking Dead bothered me more than Lori and Judy. I think it was maybe the visual that did it.
Robert: Although Lori and the baby being shot was surprising, I wouldn’t haven’t included that over Glenn’s tragic death. I’ve spoken to a lot of people who genuinely hated Lori, and hated the baby even being introduced, so nobody was really sad to see the death.
Glenn, however, was beaten to death in front of his own wife, and the final cry of “Maggie” before the finish was horribly saddening. Eh, your list though.
Glen’s death was shocking and cringe worthy, sad, not so much.
Robert, it wasn’t Lori and the baby being killed, it was the heartbreaking moment of Rick Grimes consoling his son after breaking the news that mommy and his baby sister were gone.
Your_Favourite_Loser: gi joe #’s 26 – 27, snake-eyes origin story
That’s an excellent choice and worthy of an honorable mention. They put ol’ Snake Eyes through it.
Dr. Doctor: I cried more for Ampersand than 355.
Co-sign this. Vaughn did a great job in making you care for that monkey that you genuinely cared when he died.
Joe: The Death of Gwen Stacy should be 1. The Death of Phoenix should also be on this list. Two of the most iconic and saddest moments in Marvel history.
For me, having read her death decades after it happened, it didn’t resonate with me and I thought it came off a bit cheesy. I felt more sadness in reading Peter’s heartfelt “goodbye audio letter” to her in the really excellent Spider-Man: Blue. The Phoenix’s sacrifice didn’t resonate with me either as she was a crazy bitch. To quote Charlie Murphy, “She had to go!” So no tears or fucks given for her.
Doc Sasquatch: The death of Illyana was heartbreaking, but while it was very heartbreaking to see how it affected Colossus, what really hit me was the issue on how Jubilee was affected by it. It showed such a realistic portrayal of how people who are not family (but sill good friends) cope up with death. I remember how Jubilee was so upset about being Illyana’s “watcher” and how she could not understand her. Still, a bond developed between them. I cried with the picture of Jubilee cradling the Bamf doll that Shadowcat gave Illyana (which Illyana loved so much). Much more touching was her talk with Archangel, who was then only relegated to a resident “pretty playboy” status without any depth or character at all. Their confrontation was consistent with their characters, but still so human for one to relate to.
Very good analysis, this was so well written and easily the highlight of that year’s Uncanny X-Men.
The TradeMark Experience: Generation Next #4 (Age Of Apocalypse): Illyana Rasputin is narrating about how brave her brother Colossus is, how he would do anything for his students, even if it meant dying and never seeing her again. All the while, juxtaposed with this speech is Colossus cowardly and selfishly leaving the Gen Next kids to die in the Sugar Mine, including a very devastating image of Paige Guthrie looking at Colossus through the closing steel door with utter despair. Colossus drops in a heap, crying as the door closes, sealing the fate of his students, while Illyana ends with “because my brother is a hero.” I’m tearing up just writing about it.
I own that issue had not picked up on that was what the writing were conveying That’s an great piece of storytelling which made his actions that led to Katya’s death in X-Men: Omega more resonating.
Benjamin J: You could probably do an entire separate list of sad Spider-Man moments, but I wish at least one had made the list. Mine would go to my personal favorite single issue of any comic ever: The death of Harry Osborn in Spectacular Spider-Man #200.
Too true, which leaves you numb to a lot of said sad moments in the life of Peter Parker.
CyberVenom: Glad to her Japan went well! Thanks for the depressing return! (In jest good sir!)
Top 10 Saddest Moments, in no order:
10. Lori and Judith die
9. Identity Crisis (the death of Sue and the shrinking of Atom)
8. The Miscarriage of the Richards’
7. Gwen dies.
6. Uncle Ben dies.
5. Kitty Pryde phased a bullet
4. Lois watched Superman die
3. Captain America breaks the Skull’s neck (Earth X)
2. Batman: The Animated Series. “Heart of Ice” (I know it’s not a comic, but that final scene. Damn.)
1. The Thing. “This Man, This Monster”
Some good ones in there, although I never felt sad about Kitty Pryde phasing that bullet. Can one of ya’ll explain why that was met with such overwhelming sadness for her?
***Editor’s Note*** This list is looking at the most hated writers solely. I acknowledge that their are hated artists, editors, and even execs. I am considering a follow up column discussing those. Additionally, the writers mentioned is not to point out their bad runs or even say they are bad writer, but that comic fans hold animosity toward these writer for an egregious act commited by these below listed writers.
- Chris Claremont: Sure we love his initial 13 year run on Uncanny X-Men, but does anyone forgive him for X-treme X-Men?
#8 Stan Lee
Biggest Crime Against Comicdom: Taking credit for the creations and works of Steve Ditko and Jack Kirby.
Everyone loves Stan Lee, but it can’t be denied that in certain parts of comic book fandom there are those who resent the way Lee crafted the narrative of how the Marvel Universe was created and ensured his place in the history book as the sole creative force behind Spider-Man, the Avengers, the X-Men and a host of other Marvel characters.
#7 Jeph Loeb
Biggest Crime Against Comicdom: He took over for Bryan Hitch on the great Ultimates title and proceeded to take it into the crapper. Not to mention he was on the writing team when Heroes fell off as a television show!
No denying most fans love his multiple collaborations with Tim Sale on iconic stories with Batman, Spider-Man, Daredevil and Hulk. However his decent to mediocrity began with his failure on the Ultimates and some continued agonizing story arcs in other Marvel U series.
#6 Frank Miller
Biggest Crime Against Comicdom: “I’m the goddamned Batman!”
There is no denying he has been responsible for some of the most seminal moments in comics highlighted by his take on the Dark Knight and the Man Without Fear to name a few. However his attempt to capture lightening in a bottle again with the abysmal The Dark Knight Strikes Again and whatever All Star Batman and Robin was supposed to be, that fans want him no where near a comic book.
#5 J. Michael Straczynski
Biggest Crime Against Comicdom: Spider totem and One More Day!
I know I know, it was an edict from Joe Quesada. But damnit I can’t put him on the list. Besides, some writers have been given unpopular orders (see: revive Jean Grey, Colossus, Hal Jordan) and hit it out of the ballpark with those perimeters. Straczynski came up with the lamest and insulting cop out ever. The devil made them do it. ::Roll Eyes:: OKAY!
#4 Howard Mackie
Biggest Crime Against Comicdom: The architect of Norman Osborn’s resurrection during Spider-Man’s “Clone Saga.”
Somebody had to take the fall for the atrocious conclusion of the “Clone Saga” and sorry Howard, it had to be you! Sadly this is the pinnacle of his comics writing career in a perverse way.
#3 Ron Marz
Biggest Crime Against Comicdom: Replaced Hal Jordan as Green Lantern turning him into the villain Parallax.
Now I personally like Marz and his run with Kyle Rayner on Green Lantern. He was put in an awful situation and strict orders to fundamentally change the GL universe and succeeded by creating a likable new character and a great, flawed new villain. Unfortunately H.E.A.T. saw to making him public enemy number one in their fight to restore Hal as the true Green Lantern.
#2 Chuck Austin
Biggest Crime Against Comicdom: Making Nightcrawler a demon and having Juggernaut bed She-Hulk.
There is no man more hated among X-fans than Austen who’s mediocre run on Uncanny ruined that book for many, including myself. Word is, the hate for Chuck Austen was so strong that it drove him out of the comic industry. GOOD!
#1 Brian Michael BendisBiggest Crime Against Comicdom: Seemingly controls everything that’s happened at Marvel since 2004!
The most successful writer currently in comics cannot help but having his detractors for the amount of influence he has on the Marvel Universe. His success bred a formula of less action and more dialogue and “character building” that would take issues to see a payoff. I’m not one to crap on pacing and story telling, but it’s telling when your contemporary, Jeph Loeb, eschews that a Batman-Daredevil crossover written by you would result in an entire issue of the two superheroes discussing their feelings in the Batcave. Loathe him or absolutely hate him, he’s here to stay.
Well that’s my list. I’m sure this list will elicit a number of responses and I look forward to reading every one of them. Join me next week for another edition of the 8-Ball! Have a great week and don’t forget to read the many other great columns, news articles and more here at 411mania.com! I’m done.
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