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411 Fact or Fiction Music 11.02.12: Getting Political

November 2, 2012 | Posted by Joseph Lee

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Welcome to another edition of Fact or Fiction: Music. I’m your host, Joseph Lee.

This week we have Sean Garmer against Stewart Lange.

Round 1
1) You enjoyed My Chemical Romance’s “Boy Division” and “Tomorrow’s Money”. Stewart Lange: FACT.

Yeah, do you know what? MCR are a guilty pleasure of mine. I’d never brag about, or even claim to like them, but I actually do. Secrets out now I suppose. Anyway, they’re both pretty decent and while I’m not sure which I prefer more at the moment, I’m sure when my wife “forces” me to listen to them in the car one day I’ll maybe even learn the words.

Sean Garmer: FACT.

My question is why didn´t they release these songs? They are very good and sound like a perfect mix between Three Cheers and Danger Days. I enjoyed Boy Division a bit more than Tomorrow´s Money but the solo in Tomorrow´s Money is damn awesome. I´m not the biggest fan of MCR, but I enjoyed these rocking bands. This certainly makes them sound like a darker punk band than the emo band that they started out being. If you haven´t listened to these songs I suggest you do so.

Score Card: 1 for 1
Round 2
2) You’re interested in hearing some of Lil Wayne’s unreleased songs with Dr. Dre.
Stewart Lange: FICTION.

Dr Dre? Yes. Lil Wayne? No thanks. I’m maybe missing a trick here, but I can’t stick “Little” Wayne so I have no interest in what he’s wanting to release next. If I ever listen to Dre I’ve not heard before again, it’ll be The Chronic 2.

Sean Garmer: FICTION.

Not really, I don´t care much for Lil Wayne and though I am a big fan of Dr. Dre, and his work with other artists is generally good, I´ve kinda had my fill of Lil Wayne for a while. I think the last time I was on here there was a question about Lil Wayne going on a break. I really wish he would just let his music be off everything for a while so I can get a cleanse.

Score Card: 2 for 2
Round 3
3) It was a good decision for Green Day to move up the release of Tre!. Stewart Lange: FACT.

Probably, but who really cares? I find this whole idea really pretentious and almost hope it fails miserably. Is there not an accompanying movie as well, did I hear? Yeah, that doesn’t help me not hate this idea even more. I used to like Green Day, too.

Sean Garmer: FACT.

It is a good decision for the ADD generation because they can´t stand to wait and now they will have the trilogy of albums all before Christmas. Personally, I think spacing the albums out within two months of each other was a very good move because it gave each album space to breathe on its own and let it simmer in people´s heads before the other one came out. (I would have made them three months apart if it was my choice.) So, I think the original idea was just fine, but I understand Green Day here, they want to give the fans the last album earlier because they had to cancel the tour.

Score Card: 3 for 3


Round 4
4) You don’t care about a Lady Gaga/Tony Bennett jazz album.
Sean Garmer: FACT.

Exactly, I don´t care, I like Lady Gaga and I watched her Thanksgiving Special last year too where she did a few things with Tony Bennett, but I don´t know if I would want to listen to a whole album of the stuff though. This is good for Gaga because she gets to put herself in another demographic and make more money. This is also good because it is nice to see Tony Bennett is still doing things at his age, plus Gaga gets to show another side of herself. At this point though, as the question says I don´t care.

Stewart Lange: FACT.

Indeed I DO NOT care, good sir. What the hell sort of weird joke is this? I think I’d be more inclined to want to hear a collaboration between Flo-Rida and PSY, for crying out loud. Maybe Gaga should do what she does best and just continue becoming the next Madonna.

Score Card: 4 for 4
Round 5
5) Pitbull and Christina Aguilera’s “Feel This Moment” wasn’t very good.
Sean Garmer: FACT.

I love 80´s music and Aha´s Take on Me is one of it´s classics but taking the main beat of the song and putting into this makes the song sound very hollow and it just does not make sense really. Having that along with Pitbull doing his regular stuff with Christina trying to match this beat is utterly ridiculous really. Just do not like this song at all. If Christina was trying to have any meaning in that song it gets completely lost with all the extra stuff going on here.

Stewart Lange: FACT.

It was never going to be my thing, but no, I didn’t think it was very good. While Christina has an amazing voice, I only need to hear it in small doses so I’ll not miss never hearing this song again.

Score Card: 5 for 5
Round 6
6) Musicians should just “shut up and sing” and keep their political opinions to themselves.
Sean Garmer: FICTION.

Musicians are people too and what´s the point of writing political music if you do not get to express the feelings behind that music in real life. The people saying this need to realize that this is one of the fueling fires of music and people have always said their opinions on stage or in clubs about whatever was on their minds. This is not a circus or even a WWE show where they stick to a script. These are human beings like you and me and if we can go on facebook or twitter or forums and express those opinions, they should be able to do this also, even if it means doing it at their concerts. As long as they don´t take away from the music, to have a 30 minute hate on the President speech it does not really bother me.

Stewart Lange: FACT.

Now, this is a bit of a loaded question and I’m only saying Fact because I made an oath to myself to never, ever say Faction. While everyone is entitled to their opinion and it’s their own right to share it, these musicians (and actors, sports stars, whoever) have a slightly over inflated theory on who actually cares what they think. Do you guys want to know who Justin Bieber is voting for? No, neither do I. They’re entitled to their opinion but I’m equally entitled to not give a damn.

Score Card: 5 for 6

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