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November 23, 2012 | Posted by Joseph Lee

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Welcome to another edition of Fact or Fiction: Music. I’m your host, Joseph Lee.

This week we have myself against Robert Cooper.

Round 1
1) You agree that Black Sabbath is the most important British metal band of all time. Robert Cooper: FACT.

FACT FACT FACT! IF this question were if it were most important British bands of all time, you might find a bit more in terms of options. But there is no question that the mighty Sabbath are the most important British metal band of all time, if not in all of the world. I think if you were to have any other bands in the running, they’d be Judas Priest and Iron Maiden. Now, just between those two, while I like Maiden more, Priest have been around almost a decade longer, and have had arguably more classic albums, as well as 1 in each decade they have been around. But neither band match up to Black Sabbath. Black Sabbath are the FIRST heavy metal band, not only are they the first, they can be argued as the best of all time. Their stuff is the 70s are all classic (except Technical Ecstasy and Never Say Die!). Their stuff with Dio is awesome, and most of the Tony Martin albums are great as well. I’d like to hear anyone argue that any other British metal band is more important than this one.

Joseph Lee: FACT.

I’d be really hard-pressed to come up with a more important band in metal than Black Sabbath, even counting non-British acts. The poll had Iron Maiden and Led Zeppelin getting the 2nd and 3rd most votes, and of those I’d probably give the nod to Zeppelin. But Sabbath is definitely the most important British metal band. They paved the way for so many others and their influence can still be felt to this day.

Score Card: 1 for 1
Round 2
2) You enjoyed the Britney Spears/Will.I.Am collaboration “Scream and Shout”.
Robert Cooper: FICTION.

I will honestly say that is not an artist I particularly enjoy. I find him to be a kind of vapid and repetitive. This is how the song went, not as vapid as it just repeated itself over and over and over again. The beat is catchy, I’ll admit that, it’s not that bad, albeit a bit boring after a while. I also don’t think Britney added that much to it, if anything. She was there for name value, and the words “Britney Bitch” in it, that’s all.

Joseph Lee: FICTION.

This may be the worst Britney Spears song I’ve ever heard. Granted, I’m not a huge fan of her, but her late 90s/early 00s material was catchy. This…this is just a mess. It’s another generic club track, none of which ever sound particularly good. Once again, the worst Britney Spears song I’ve ever heard. For, it’s par for the course.

Score Card: 2 for 2
Round 3
3) You would not be interested in a Kurt Cobain documentary from Courtney Love. Robert Cooper: FICTION.

I would be interested in one, but I wouldn’t trust Courtney Love with the care of a No.2 pencil, much less a documentary that she would be able to skew, and potential tarnish the memory of one of the more influential artists of the 90s. The woman is a mess, and I think she needs a hug and someone to tell her no…with the crackpipe. Besides, I think it should be done by someone much more capable. Though if it is really well done, I will be disappointed about not being as entertained by Kurt Cobain jokes.

Joseph Lee: FICTION.

Pretty much what Coop (can I call you Coop?) said. While I’ve seen and read plenty of material about Kurt Cobain (the About A Son documentary is highly recommended), I would not want Courtney Love’s warped view on his life and career. Can you even imagine what a train wreck that would be?

Score Card: 3 for 3


Round 4
4) The music video for Nicki Minaj’s “Freedom” wasn’t that good.
Joseph Lee: FACT.

Nicki Minaj just doesn’t work for me at all. But this song actually isn’t that bad compared to her other output. Of course, that’s like saying one Twilight movie isn’t as bad as another. At least she tries to have a somewhat serious tone and her pop vocals sound…okay. But there are better singers and better rappers. The video is bland and uninspired. Next.

Robert Cooper: FACT.

I will start this by saying that I didn’t hate this song, I thought it was merely mediocre rather than outright shit. This video has some nice sets to it, but nothing was done with them. It was just alternating back and forth from set to set with just the face of Nicki….*shudder*. This was a step up from her crazy shit that she usually does, but this was kind of the opposite, boring, but a semi-better song.

Score Card: 4 for 4
Round 5
5) You’re not impressed with the Lady Gaga “Cake” videos.
Joseph Lee: FACT.

Oh look, Lady Gaga’s rolling around in cake! She’s so kooky! There’s not much to be impressed about. She shakes her butt, I guess that’s something. No, nevermind, it’s not.

Robert Cooper: FACT.

I saw some videos of Lady Gaga and cake, and they reminded me of everything on this site that is posted by AJ Grey. While I was impressed by the amount of ass, it’s not anything I haven’t seen already posted by AJ Grey.

Score Card: 5 for 5
Round 6
6) A collaboration between The Killers and Muse would be great.
Joseph Lee: FACT.

Two of my favorite modern bands working together? Hell yes it would be great! Matt Bellamy and Brandon Flowers need to sit down yesterday and start planning this out. I want albums, music videos, a live tour, the works. This needs to happen.

Robert Cooper: FACT.

I don’t see any reason why it wouldn’t be. The Killers are a solid band and Muse are pretty good themselves. I’m not a huge follower of either, but I think their styles could mesh to be something that could be a good group. It can’t be any worse than the next played ad nauseam Nickleback album.

Score Card: 6 for 6

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