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Two Tivos To Paradise 12.12.14: Sons of Anarchy, Game of Thrones, Transparent, More

December 12, 2014 | Posted by Al Norton

Hello friends; what’s good? I’m taking a break from building my ark – it’s been raining in Boston since Monday night – to update you on all things television. The bulk of today’s column is dedicated to awards season, which has begun! Speaking of which, here’s the schedule for TTTP the next few weeks; next Friday will be our picks for the Fifty Best Shows of 2014, followed the next week by our TTTP 2014 TV Entertainers of the Year. We will be off January 2nd and then back with the first full column of 2015 on January 9th.

ABC has given Fresh of the Boat the Tuesdays at 8pm timeslot starting in February but will run the first two episodes the previous Wednesday, mixed in with the network’s established shows…

12 Monkeys premieres next month on Syfy…

Looking on, she sings his songs, the news she knows, the tune she hums.

Thank You For Coming Home, I’m Sorry All The Chairs Are Worn
Nominations for the 72nd annual Golden Globe Awards were announced on Thursday morning. Below is a list of the TV noms…

Best Actor, Drama: Clive Owens (The Knick), Liev Schreiber (Ray Donovan), Kevin Spacey (House of Cards), James Spader (The Blacklist), Dominic West (The Affair)

Best Actress, Drama: Claire Danes (Homeland), Viola Davis (How to Get Away with Murder), Julianna Margulies (The Good Wife), Ruth Wilson (The Affair), Robin Wright (House of Cards)

Best Actor, Comedy: Louis C.K. (Louie), Don Cheadle (House of Lies), Ricky Gervais (Derek), William H Macy (Shameless), Jeffrey Tambour (Transparent)

Best Actress, Comedy: Lena Dunham (Girls), Edie Falco (Nurse Jackie),Julia Louis-Dreyfus (Veep), Gina Rodriguez (Jane the Virgin), Taylor Schilling (Orange is the New Black)

Best Supporting Actor (Drama, Comedy, Mini-Series, TV Movie): Matt Bomer (The Normal Heart), Alan Cummings (The Good Wife), Colin Hanks (Fargo), Bill Murray (Olive Kitteridge), Jon Voight (Ray Donovan)

Best Supporting Actress (Drama, Comedy, Mini-Series, TV Movie): Uzo Adama (Orange is the New Black), Kathy Bates (American Horror Story: Freak Show), Joanne Froggatt (Downton Abbey), Allison Janney (Mom), Michelle Monaghan (True Detective)

Best TV Movie/Mini-Series: Fargo, The Missing, Normal Heart, Olive Kitteridge, True Detective

Best Drama Series: The Affair, Downton Abbey, Game of Thrones, The Good Wife, House of Cards

Best Comedy Series: Girls, Jane the Virgin, Orange is the New Black, Silicon Valley, Transparent

On the plus side we’ve got Jane the Virgin, The Affair, and Transparent getting some love, but once again Sons of Anarchy gets ignored. I was also hoping the Hollywood Foreign Press might try to get ahead of the game and throw a nomination at You’re the Worst.

On Wednesday the SAG Award nominations came out…

Actor in a Drama Series: Steve Buscemi (Boardwalk Empire), Peter Dinklage (Game of Thrones), Woody Harrelson (True Detective), Matthew McConaughey (True Detective), Kevin Spacey (House of Cards)

Actress in a Drama Series: Claire Danes (Homeland), Viola Davis (How to Get Away With Murder), Julianna Margulies (The Good Wife), Tatiana Maslany (Orphan Black), Maggie Smith (Downton Abbey), Robin Wright (House of Cards)

Actor in a Comedy Series: Ty Burrell (Modern Family), Louis C.K. (Louie), William H Macy (Shameless), Jim Parsons (The Big Bang Theory), Eric Stonestreet (Modern Family)

Actress in a Comedy Series: Uzo Adaba (OITNB), Julie Bowen (Modern Family), Edie Falco (Nurse Jackie), Julia Louis-Dreyfus (Veep), Amy Poehler (Parks and Recreation)

Ensemble Drama Cast: Boardwalk Empire, Downton Abbey, Game of Thrones, Homeland, House of Cards

Ensemble Comedy Cast: The Big Bang Theory, Brooklyn Nine-Nine, Modern Family, Orange is the New Black, Veep

My reaction? BORING. Seriously, other than recognizing Orphan Black, these are just the same old, same old. I am not saying anyone above isn’t good, just that there is a LOT more quality on TV than what’s found above.

In other year end award news, The American Film Institute has released their picks for the Ten Best TV Shows of 2014: Mad Men, Orange is the New Black, Jane the Virgin, Game of Thrones, Transparent, How to Get Away with Murder, Fargo, Silicon Valley, The Knick, and The Americans. Kind of a random list but at least you can’t accuse them of going with the same old same old as SIX of these shows are in their first season.

As I mentioned in the cold open, the TTTP list of the Fifty Best Shows of 2014 will be out next week, so use the comments section below to lobby for your favorites!

Ok, that’s a lotta text, so let’s break things up with the return of The Ragtime Gals…

You Gave Me Love, You Did Me Wrong, Didn’t Know What To Do
Another week, another batch of high profile new shows in development as well as new shows already ordered and on the way…

*We told you a while back that David S Goyer (<BMan of Steel, Batman Begins, Blade, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, Da Vinci’s Demons, Constantine) was developing a Superman prequel TV series about life on the planet Krypton and now we now the project has found a home at Syfy, with Ian B. Goldberg (Once Upon a Time, FlashForward, Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles) writing the pilot. The show will focus on Superman’s Grandfather and his attempts to bring hope and justice to the people of Krypton (FYI – the name of the show is indeed Krypton).

*Luke Wilson and Imogen Poots have landed the leads in Roadies, Cameron Crowe’s comedy pilot for Showtime about the crew on a big time rock and roll tour. Also in the cast are Keisha Castle-Hughes, Peter Cambor, and Rafe Spall. Crowe is writing, directing, and executive producing the pilot, joined in the latter by J.J. Abrams and Winnie Holzman (which is a way of saying that unless this is the worst pilot ever, it’s getting a first season order).

*John Wells (ER, The West Wing, Southland, Shameless) is executive producing a new drama in development at The CW based on the life of Kenny Wormald, who starred in the remake of Footloose. The show follows a successful back up dancer trying to break out as a star in his own right. Award winning playwright Andrew Hinderaker is penning the pilot. Wormald’s backup dancer resume includes stints with Justin Timberlake, Madonna, Jennifer Lopez, The Pussycat Dolls, and Christina Aguilera.

*Maggie Siff (Sons of Anarchy, Mad Men) has joined Damian Lewis and Paul Giamatti in the Showtime pilot Billions, about a US Attorney and a master of the hedge fund universe who are on course for a showdown. Also on board is David Costablile (Breaking Bad, Low Winter Sun, Suits) The show is written by Brian Koppleman & David Levien (who teamed to write Rounders, Runaway Jury, and the TV show Tilt) and bestselling author Andrew Ross Sorkin, with Neil Burger (The Illusionist, Divergent, Limitless) directing the pilot.

*Oscar winner Cuba Gooding Jr. will play O.J. Simpson in FX’s upcoming American Crime Story: People vs. O.J. Simpson, with two time Emmy nominee Sarah Paulson (American Horror Story, Studio 60) as Prosecutor Marcia Clarke. This will be the first season of ACS, a new true crime anthology series from Ryan Murphy and Brad Falchuk, who previously teamed up on Glee, American Horror Story, and the upcoming Scream Queens, and they will be using Jeffrey Toobin’s (excellent) best seller The Run of His Life: The People vs. O.J. Simpson as the source material. Scott Alexander and Larry Karaszewski, who co-wrote The People vs Larry Flint, Ed Wood, and Man on the Moon, will pen the first two episodes of the season.

*Fox will premiere their limited (i.e. mini) series Wayward Pines on May 14th, launching it in not only the US but 125 countries and making it the biggest same day/date premiere of a scripted series ever. The series is M. Night Shyamalan’s adaptation of a novel by Blake Crouch, about a secret service agent played by Matt Dillon investigating the disappearance of two federal agents in the seemingly idyllic town of Wayward Pines. The cast includes Melissa Leo, Terrence Howard, Juliette Lewis, Carla Gugino, Shannyn Sossamon, Toby Jones, Reed Diamond, Tim Griffin, and Charlie Tahan.

*ABC is developing a mini-series adaptation of Ken Follett’s bestselling Century Trilogy (Fall of Giants, Winter of the World, and Edge of Eternity), with Ann Peacock (The Chronicles of Narnia, The Dovekeepers) on board to write the 10 hour project. The sweeping drama about five intertwined families used World War I as a backdrop. Michael De Luca (The Social Network, 50 Shade of Grey) and Stephanie Germain (The Day After Tomorrow) are executive producing.

*ABC made a pilot for Irreversible last spring with David Schwimmer in the lead – the show is an adaption of a popular Israeli comedy about a couple who keep getting themselves into uncomfortable social situations – and they liked the concept enough where they are giving it a second shot, this time with Justin Long as the male lead.

*ABC has ordered a pilot for a buddy comedy set in the NBA from executive producer Dan Fogelman (Galavant, The Neighbors). The show, written by Trophy Wife creators Casey Johnson and David Windsor, follows an NBA rookie who doesn’t speak English and his translator, who knows nothing about sports.

It’s Time To Play The Music, It’s Time To Light The Lights

The Muppets video of the week…

But You Were Up To Your Old Tricks In Chapters Four Five And Six
Ratings Notes From The Last Eight Days…

Peter Pan Live! only pulled in 50% of the demos that Sound of Music Live! did last year but that was good enough to dominate the night and gave NBC it’s second most watched non-sports Thursday in almost FIVE years…Bones & Gracepoint were each up double digits in totals and demos…Mom won the night in total viewers and demos (although for the half hour they went head-to-head, PPL! topped it)…Reign was up double digits in totals and demos…The Vampire Diaries tied a series low…The season premiere of The Taste matched last year’s finale…

Fox’s coverage of the Pac 12 Championship was up 63% from when the network aired the game in 2012…Shark Tank won the night in totals and demos…The Amazing Race was up double digits in totals and demos, winning 8pm in the latter…Grimm and Constantine were each down a bit in total viewers and demos, both hitting series lows in the latter…Cristela dropped to a new demo low…ANTM matched last week but was down a bit from the previous finale…

The James Franco – Nikki Minaj episode of Saturday Night Live was a ratings success, up 7% in total viewers and 10% in the demos from the Cameron Diaz outing two weeks ago and posting the second best numbers of the season in both categories, behind only the Chris Rock – Prince episode in November.

The Simpsons had the best non-football demos of the night, up in a big way thanks to Fox having the late NFL game. Brooklyn Nine-Nine and Bob’s Burgers were also up double digits…Revenge was up double digits in totals and demos after last week’s series low…Due in part to the soft ratings for the I Love Lucy special lead-in, The Mentalist was down 30% and CSI hit a new series low in total viewers and tied a series low in the demos…Sunday Night Football won the night in total viewers and in the demos… A surprisingly strong return for Bravo’s The Millionaire Matchmaker, up 67% in total viewers and 41% in the demos from the season six opener and setting a new total audience high for a season premiere…A very strong start for TNT’s The Librarians, with 5.4 million viewers live and 7.3 million on the night, making it the most watched cable series premiere of 2014 (and also # 1 with the 25-54 demo)… 4.1 million people tuned in to Discovery’s Eaten Alive on Sunday night, making it the most watched nature telecast since 2010 and it’s best performing broadcast of any kind in 2014 with men 18-34. It was also # 2 for the night in social media activity, behind only Sunday Night Football…

Scorpion continues to be a winner, ranking as the most watched scripted show of the night in total viewers and demos…Mike & Molly was down 31% in the demos from last year’s opener but was up 20% from what the last new episode of The Millers did in that spot…The Voice won the night in totals and demos albeit while establishing a new series lows in both…2 Broke Girls was up 25% in the demos…Castle was up in the demos to win 10pm…The Great Christmas Light Fight was up double digits in totals and demos from the season one opener…

The series finale of Sons of Anarchy set a new series high in the ratings in both total viewers (6.4 million) and the demos. FX has been focused on the Live+3 Day numbers for their shows for a while now and when those come out next week, there’s an outside chance the show crosses the 10 million viewer threshold (the previous series high was 6.2 million for the season seven premiere, a number that jumped to 9.25 million with the Live+3 Day numbers). The live demo numbers easily topped all of TV on the night…The Flash topped last week’s Arrow crossover episode in total viewers (making it the most watched episode since the series premiere)…Supernatural was up double digits in totals and demos, with the former number the show’s best in 4+ years…The Voice won the night in total viewers while hitting a new series demo low for an elimination episode…In my favorite ratings news of the night, Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer finished second on the night in total viewers and demos…Marvel’s Agents of SHIELD and Forever were each down slightly in the demos…About a Boy tied a series low…The Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show won the night in the demos among the broadcast networks…

Great night for ABC, with demo gains for all of their shows (The Middle +38%, The Goldbergs +29%, Modern Family +10%, blackish +10%, Nashville +15%) and The Middle hitting a new season high and Nashville tying theirs…Modern Family won the night in the demos as usual…Arrow was down 20+% in totals and demos from last week’s crossover event…Survivor was up in totals and demos, winning 8pm in both…NBC was down across the board, with SVU and Chicago PD dropping double digits in totals and demos…Stalker won 10pm in totals viewers and tired Nashville in the demos…Hell’s Kitchen matched last week…

All The Young Dudes, Carry The News
Industry News, Notes, and Hot Rumors…FXX has picked up a 13 episode seventh – and final – season of The League…In another in a series of VERY cool casting choices by the folks at The Flash, Mark Hamill will appear in an episode of the The CW superhero drama this spring as The Trickster, a role he played in the original Flash series in 1990. This version of the character is different than the one he played the first time but still, pretty damn cool…HBO’s The Leftovers is undergoing a creative reboot of sorts for season two, with the leads expected back but almost full turnover of the supporting cast as the show shifts its location from Mapleton, NY to a new city/town…Kirsten Dunst and Jesse Plemons (Breaking Bad, Friday Night Lights) are the first two official cast members of season two of FX’s Fargo. Jeffrey Donovan and Nick Offerman have been rumored to be close to signing as well…Food Network’s latest competition series is All Star Academy, where ten of the network’s biggest stars – including Bobby Flay, Michael Symon, Curtis Stone, and Alex Guarnaschelli – are paired up with a home cook (on a one-on-one basis, as opposed to teams a la America’s Best Cook), with the eventual winner getting $50K… Season two of WE tv’s Marriage Boot Camp Reality Stars premieres on January 9th, with a cast of Heidi Montag and Spencer Pratt (The Hills), Aviva and Reid Drescher (The Real Housewives of New York), Natalie Nunn and Jacob Payne (Bad Girls Club, Bridezillas), Tyson Apostol and Rachel Foulger (Survivor: Blood vs. Water), and Syleena Johnson and Kiwane Garris (R&B Divas)… Peri Gilpin (Frasier) and Brandon T Jackson (Tropic Thunder) have joined the cast of NBC’s upcoming Mr. Robinson, which stars Craig Robinson as a down on his luck musician who takes a job as a high school music teacher to pay the bills. The comedy should premiere in the first quarter of 2015…Ana Ortiz (Devious Maids, Ugly Betty) has signed on for multiple episodes of Marry Me…Melina Kanakaredes (Providence, CSI: NY) will guest on Hawaii Five-0…C.S. Lee (Dexter) will recur on season two of True Detective…Brian Baumgartner (The Office, The Bridge) will appear on an episode of Melissa & Joey…Emma Roberts and Jamie Lee Curtis are the first two cast members for Scream Queens, the 15 episode first season of Ryan Murphy & Brad Falchuk’s new comedy/horror anthology series for FX. Like American Horror Story, this show will feature a new cast and new stories each season…The upcoming spring cycle of Dancing with the Stars will be Len Goodman’s last with the show…Howard Stern has confirmed that he will return to America’s Got Talent this summer, his fourth season with the show… David Letterman’s last night as host of The Late Show will be on May 20th, 2015…Adult Swim has picked up new seasons of Black Jesus, Mike Tyson Mysteries, and Mr. Pickles…Alfonoso Ribeiro’s first project after winning Dancing with the Stars will be Hometown Rebound, a new reality series in development with ThinkFactory where communities come together for big renovations projects (think schools, parks, libraries, that kind of thing). No network is attached yet…USA has picked up an 8 episode second season of Playing House…TNT has ordered an 18 episode sixth season of Rizzoli & IslesContinuum has been picked up for a six episode 4th – and final – season that will air in the states on Syfy (and in Canada on Showcase) in 2015.

Turns Out Not Where But Who You’re With That Really Matters
The Best of What’s Around aka The Best Thing I’ve Watched This Week…
When Sons of Anarchy began I thought it was going to be a show about the quest for redemption, about escaping your past to create your future, and it’s the highest compliment that I can think of to say I really had no idea that it would end up as it did, with the realization that in some cases, we are who we are and the best we can do is embrace that while we try to protect those we love.

This week’s series finale was a bit heavy on the symbolism but hit all the right emotional notes, especially the conversations between Jax and Nero, and then Jax’s goodbye to his kids. Also powerful was the opening, with his visit to both Opie and finally Tara’s grave.
Regardless of what one thinks of Jax as a person, Charlie Hunnam’s performance this season, and in particular the last four episodes, is as good as anything on TV in 2014.

I invested seven years into Sons of Anarchy and am very glad I did, which to be is just about the highest compliment I can give a TV show.

People Say I’m Crazy Doing What I’m Doing, Well, They Give Me All Kinds Of Warnings To Save Me From Ruin
What’s flashed before my eyes the last seven days…

How the above sketch got cut from last week’s SNL is beyond me…Last week’s Restaurant Wars episode of Top Chef: Boston did not disappoint, with some great individual performances and one team clearing gelling while the other didn’t so much fall apart as just sit there..Why doesn’t Bravo do a two night Restaurant Wars special, featuring all-star Top Chef alums, with the first night picking the teams and shopping/planning/designing and night two would be a LIVE service. I’d watch the hell out of that as a yearly event (and they could do it at time when the TV calendar is quiet, like December or June)… Elementary is not one of the best shows on TV and that’s not a bad thing. The truth is I don’t know that I would miss it all that much if it were gone but it’s incredibly well acted and as far as crime solving procedurals go, it’s pretty close to the top of the list. In the age of internet comment sections, shows seem to either be “Best Ever” or “sucks” but in reality we need there to be solid, good quality series, both to entertain as well as to help us recognize when a different show is markedly better or worse, and Elementary can be counted on as a consistent B/B+…I gave Peter Pan Live! a solid B, a big step up from last year’s Sound of Music Live!. There were some technical issues and Christopher Walken may have showed his age a bit when trying to remember his lines but he was still highly entertaining, Allison Williams was quite good, and Taylor Louderman’s performance as Wendy was the kind that will lead to her being very much in demand…Eight episodes in – one away from next week’s mid-season finale – and Jane the Virgin has maintained all the charm and fun from the pilot, which is no small feat. The opening hour was perhaps the best of any of the fall’s new series and so far there’s no letdown as the show mocks telenovelas and at the same time gets you fully invested in its characters/storylines. If you catch up on one new show you missed over the holidays, it should be Jane the Virgin…A fantastic New Girl this week, capping off a very strong start to the season and a return to form after the missteps of last season. I pray that Billy Eichner reprises his role down the line and that airport episodes become an annual thing…I am still really enjoying Scorpion but am worried about how high they are setting the tension/stakes; we’ve had a Congressman assassinated, one of the team almost killed, an almost meltdown at a nuclear power plant, and a mad bomber, and we’re only 11 episodes in. Maybe they should have them take more non-government jobs and add a little more Leverage/A-Team to the mix. As I said, I continue to be very entertained by the show but don’t want to see them burn through so many killers/terrorist that they’re protecting the President in the season two premiere…The writing on Wednesday’s Modern Family was fantastic, with a mix of laugh out loud funny wordplay and jokes that played off of how well we know these characters at this point. Last week was funny but felt like more of the same while last night felt familiar and fresh at once…Dear Nashville – Thank you for one of the best episodes of a prime time soap in some time. Tears of joy and sadness; what else can I possible ask for??!?! Love, Al

TV Pick Of The Week
While I have never been a regular viewer of The Colbert Report, I can still fully appreciate the consistently high quality of the show, both in terms of the laughs provided and also the sharpness of the skewering it provided to those in the public eye, particularly the world of politics. What I also enjoyed was how it could easily veer into the absurd and then back again without losing an ounce of its faux authenticity…

I was very moved by this piece from the first episode after the Boston Marathon bombing.

Stephen Colbert is going on to host The Late Show and regardless of whether he succeeds or fails, his legacy in TV history is cemented by his work on Comedy Central. Don’t miss the series finale of The Colbert Report, Thursday at 11:30pm on Comedy Central.

Hope You Need My Love, Babe, Just Like I Need You
Other noteworthy programming options for the week…

*The Rock’s new life changing reality series Wake Up Call premieres tonight at 9pm on TNT…

*If you missed Peter Pan Live! last week, NBC is re-airing Saturday night at 8pm.

*Undercover Boss is back for a new season this Sunday at 8pm on CBS.

*Barbara Walter may have retired but ABC is still trotting her out for the annual 10 Most Fascinating People special (Sunday, 9pm).

*ESPN is running a two and a half hour College Football Bowl Mania Special live this Sunday at 8:30pm, with a breakdown of ALL the bowl games coming up over the next six weeks.

*MTV is trying to put a new twist on the Real World franchise with Real World Skeletons, premiering Tuesday at 10pm…

*If you loved Elf but wished it was animated and had more singing, then you’re in luck…

*Survivor wraps up its current season tis Wednesday at 8pm with a two hour episode followed by a one hour reunion special.

*The Sing Off is back this Wednesday at 9pm, although this time it’s a two hour special as opposed to a full season…

*White Collar brings its six season run to a close with the series finale this Thursday at 9pm.

Two Tivos To Paradise
@Midnight, A to Z, About A Boy, American Idol, America’s Best Cook, Antiques Roadshow, Beat Bobby Flay, Archer, Arrow, Auction Hunters, Baby Daddy, Bakery Boss, Benched, Bitten, Black-ish, The Blacklist, Bones, Brooklyn Nine-Nine, Buddy’s Bakery Rescue, Cake Boss, Chasing Life, Chicago Fire, Chicago PD, Chopped, Comic Book Men, Community, Cougar Town, Counting Cars, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Cutthroat Kitchen, The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, Dancing with the Stars, The Deadliest Catch, The Divide, Face Off, Faking It, Falling Skies, Family Guy, Fargo, Flipping Out, Food Court Wars, Food Network Challenge, Food Network Star, Forever, The Fosters, Frankenfood, Ghost Hunters, Ghost Mine, Girlfriend’s Guide to Divorce, Glee, Gotham, Graceland, Gracepoint, Great Food Truck Race, Grey’s Anatomy, Haunted Collector, Haunted Highway, Haunted Treasure, Hawaii Five-0, House of Lies, Inside Comedy with David Steinberg, Inside Amy Schumer, Iron Chef America, Justified, Key and Peele, Kitchen Inferno. The Last Ship, The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson, Late Night with Seth Myers, Law And Order: Special Victims Unit, The League, Lost Girl, Louie, Mad Men, Madam Secretary, Major Crimes, Married, Marry Me, MasterChef, MasterChef Canada, MasterChef: Junior, Masters of Sex, The Middle, Mike and Molly, The Mindy Project, Modern Family, Monster Man, Murder in the First, Nashville, New Girl, Next Great Baker, Next Iron Chef, NY Med, On the Menu, The Originals, Outside the Lines, Parenthood, Parks & Recreation, Penny Dreadful, Project Runway, Project Runway All-Stars, Rachael vs. Guy: Celebrity Cook Off, Rachael vs. Guy: Kids Cook Off, Ray Donovan, Real Time With Bill Maher, Rectify, Restaurant Impossible, Revenge, Royal Pains, Satisfaction, Saturday Night Live, Scorpion, Selfie, Shark Wranglers, So You Think You Can Dance?, The Soup, Suits, Supernatural, The Tonight Show starring Jimmy Fallon, Top Chef, Top Chef: Duels, Top Chef: Masters, Tosh.0, True Detective, Undateable, Under the Gunn, The Vampire Diaries, The Voice, The Walking Dead, Wizard Wars, Worst Cooks In America, You’re The Worst,

People Love You When They Know You’re Leaving Soon
Here ends another Two Tivos To Paradise.

We’ll be back next week with all the TV headlines!!!!

Sources for this week’s column include Daily Variety, Entertainment Weekly, TV Guide, and Hollywood Reporter (plus the web sites for those publications) as well as, &