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Comics 411: Looking at Marvel’s New/Old Avenger Voyager

January 24, 2018 | Posted by Steve Gustafson
Voyager Marvel

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Now, on with the show!

Last week we asked Do Modern Audiences Care About Conan the Barbarian? Here’s what some of you had to say:

It’s Dignity, Luann! “I don’t think you can really use the last movie as a real bellwether to show there’s no interest in more Conan the Barbarian. It’s just that a slapped together movie with a weak marketing campaign, doesn’t exactly prove much that people weren’t interested in seeing a shitty movie that the studio didn’t care about. I think that there’s a big enough demand for dark fantasy, especially after the success of Game of Thrones. You market it right and get the best people possible working on it, fans will come.”

Robert Lehto: “Probably not as Conan is un-PC. Which is a shame because he’s also awesome.”

Jeffrey: “I liked the Busiek run of Conan by Dark Horse, had some really nice artwork too. Not sure it gets very far with Marvel, but we’ll see.”

Chip McFetters: “The only way I’d be interested in a new series is if they went back to the magazine format from the Savage Sword of Conan days. Those longer stories felt epic compared to the flimsy stuff Dark Horse put out.”

Jeremy: “I’m curious to know how the Conan/Wonder Woman book has sold. That would be the clearest indication of whether these will garner much interest. If Conan/WW tanked, particularly with someone with name value like Gail Simone writing it (and doing a pretty good job, I thought), then I wouldn’t hold out much hope for this.”

David Wilkinson: “I loved read Conan when I was a kid but I probably wouldn’t like it today if Marvel did it the same way. I would like to see a more edgy Conan that is ..well…more barbaric…not an outright hero…more like in the books.”

poopsadaisy: “Conan is one of my favorite fictional characters of all time. I’ll always be excited for any project featuring Conan.”

redraptor: “The initial Dark Horse run of Conan was great. Dark, brutal, unrelenting and oozing testosterone. Thats the way Conan works. Full on brute. They later nuetered the character into a more emo teenager and most stopped buying the book.

Unfortunately, Conan is alot like Blazing Saddles. Everyone agrees it’s good if not great, but not a significant enough of a crowd will support it to get it back into true mainstream recognition. We are in the middle of a run where male characters are being pushed into the background if not flat out replaced by women(Ghostbusters, past 3 Star Wars movies, Thor, Iron man) Im not debating the quality or reasoning of the results simply stating facts. Conan will see minor but unspectacular support at Marvel and I would be surprised if he wasnt following Red Sonja around by the end of his first run.”

To read ALL the comments from the column, CLICK HERE! As always, thanks for the input!

This week we ask…

Who is Marvel’s Voyager?

Avengers #676 from writers Mark Waid, Al Ewing, and Jim Zub and artist Pepe Larraz continued Marvel’s “No Surrender” storyline with a familiar “forgotten hero” twist.

If you haven’t read, be ware of SPOILERS to follow.

The 16-issue story will unite the casts of Avengers, Uncanny Avengers, and U.S.Avengers under the umbrella of the core Avengers title,

In “No Surrender”, Earth has been stolen and in issue #676 we get an introduction to Voyager, who offers her support to Falcon, Rogue, and Sunspot as the rightful leaders of the assembled Avengers teams. Then things get interesting when other Avengers reminisce about Voyager, with Sunspot talking about Voyager’s being a founder of the team.

Say what?

Then Quicksilver adds his memory of her staying on the team when he and Scarlet Witch joined after several founders left in Avengers #16. Wanda adds that Voyager was the one to say “Even an android can cry!” when Vision joined the Avengers in #58.

We get an explanation of things when Hercules reveals that Voyager was lost to them when Kang set them up against the Squadron Sinister and Voyager took on the Squadron Sinister member “Victory, the Electromagnetic Man”, a twist on DC’s Triumph.

The set up there is Triumph is another character who was retconned with the “forgotten history” origin.

Voyager was apparently lost in time thanks to a game between Kang and the Grandmaster but become…un-lost when Earth taken to wherever it is now.

If Voyager sounds familiar, you’re not alone. My first reaction was to think back to Marvel’s Sentry, yet another character who was “forgotten” by everyone.

Sentry is unique in that Marvel introduced the character as one who was really created in Marvel’s infancy by the imaginary creative team of “Juan Pinkles” and “Chick Rivet”, anagrams of Paul Jenkins and Rick Veitch, Sentry’s real creators.

While the concept sounded good, the execution was uneven and the character floundered around, not making much of an impact.

Now we have Voyager and it seems like they are giving it another try. A retcon is risky and usually ends up confusing things more than helping. Especially when it comes to the “forgotten hero” concept. I don’t think Voyager is going to change that.

What do you think about Voyager?

That’s all the time I have. Check out our Comic Book Reviews tomorrow and see you next week!