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Kanye West Discusses What He Has in Common With Donald Trump, His Nervous Breakdown & More in Interview with Charlamagne Tha God

May 1, 2018 | Posted by Jeremy Thomas
Kanye West

Kanye West spoke with Charlamagne Tha God on Power 105 for an expansive, lengthy interview discussing his support of Donald Trump, his 2016 nervous breakdown and more. You can see video from the interview below, and highlights per the New York Times:

On his nervous breakdown and hospitalization in November 2016: “Ever since the Taylor Swift moment, it’s never been the same — the connection with radio…[Because I was] one of the most famous people on the planet. I didn’t understand it…There was elements about going to the hospital and having a breakdown — or a breakthrough — that was fire. It was incredible, the feeling.”

On the aftermath of his hospitalization: “I had lost my confidence. It just wasn’t Black Panther, Superman-level confidence [anymore]…I never had the empathy for people who lacked confidence. I had so much of it that I didn’t know what it was like to be without it. It was incredible because it was forced humility. Previously, I would’ve looked at humility as more of a negative thing.”

On opioids, medication and liposuction: “I was drugged out. I was on opioids. Two days after I got off of opioids, I’m errrrrr — I’m in the hospital…I had plastic surgery because I was trying to look good for y’all [at TMZ]. Didn’t want y’all to call me fat, so I got liposuction. And they gave me opioids…These pills that they want me to take three of a day, I take one a week maybe, two a week. Y’all had me scared of myself, of my vision. So I took some pills so I wouldn’t go to the hospital and prove everyone right. We are drugged out! We are following other people’s opinions. We are controlled by the media. And today it all changes.”

On racism: “I got this rap that says: Parents are the strippers/strip they kids of their confidence/teach white dominance/question your common sense/I’ve been washed in tradition, now I’mma rinse/hopped off the Amistad and made ‘I’m a God.’”

On cultural references to slavery: “[Putting Harriet Tubman on the $20 bill] was the moment that I wanted to use Bitcoin. It’s like when you see all the slave movies. Why you gotta keep reminding us about slavery? Why don’t you show us — put Michael Jordan on a $20 bill.”

On his first meeting with Donald Trump in December 2016: “That was almost like a Clayton Bigsby moment — when everybody’s head exploded.”

On friends asking him what made George W. Bush, who he criticized, more racist than Trump: “My response is: ‘Well, racism isn’t the deal breaker for me.’ If that was the case, I wouldn’t live in America. In this gated community, I deal with it.”

On therapy: “I use the world as my therapy — as my therapist. I will pull them into the conversation of what I’m feeling at that point and get their perspective. It’s kind of narcissistic.”

On his use of Twitter: “I think everything is therapeutic, but I’m not doing it as a form of personal therapy. It’s just an innate feeling. I want to express. I decided to use this platform to express some breakthroughs that I’ve had since going to the hospital…There will be mistakes, flaws in the way I communicate today. I’m not media trained. I’m just saying exactly what I feel out of love.”

On mental health: “I want to change the stigma of crazy, of mental health — period. Best believe I’m going to take the stigma off the word crazy.”

On his public rants during concerts: “I actually think that the rants came from the place of a bravery. I had enough of the politics. Bravery is more important than perfection. Feeling is more important than thought.”

On what he and Trump have in common: “I love challenging the norm. I love people who don’t love him. I love the fact that they speaking up and everybody’s just giving their opinions. I been waiting for this moment in time. This is like a Ye moment in time.”

On his support of Trump: “I don’t have all the answers that a celeb is supposed to have. But I can tell you that when he was running, it’s like I felt something. The fact that he won proves something. It proves that anything is possible in America…When I see an outsider infiltrate, I connect with that.”

On his new music: “I want to create music that’s therapeutic. I feel [The Life of Pablo track] ‘Real Friends’ is in the territory of what we’re creating.”