CM Punk On Deciding To Return To AEW Last Year, His ‘Counterfeit Bucks’ Line

In an interview with The MMA Hour (via Fightful), CM Punk spoke about his return to AEW last year following his triceps tear and the brawl at All Out 2022. He mentioned what he wanted to do with Collision and his promo where he mentioned ‘counterfeit bucks’. Here are highlights:

On why he returned to AEW: “I have a lot of friends there. Even though I thought the separate show and separating everyone without getting everyone in a room and squashing it was not going to work, part of me was like, ‘Well, he’s not going to let me go. I’m either going to sit at home or I can try to do some good and if I can get a crew of people on television and do some fun shows, that sounded fun to me.’ Preferably, I would like to be out of here and then everyone is happy. I don’t do this because I need to. I do it because I want to and it’s supposed to be fun, especially at this level.”

On if he ever thought things would work out: “No. I knew, ‘this is never going to work.’ It’s not the way you facilitate things. I’ll always go back to so many stories in wrestling with people flying off the handle, socking each other, and then going on to make money. How many times does it happen on the basketball court? It happened a couple of years ago in a NHL practice game. The St. Louis Blues started beating the shit out of each other. To me, that’s life and where I came from. To others, it’s the most outrageous thing in the world. I’m the devil.”

On his ‘counterfeit bucks’ line: “Going back to the Pipebomb. A lot of things that people don’t understand, ‘Oh, it’s a shoot promo.’ I never do anything that exposes the business. I know where the line is and I know where to dip my toe over the line. It changed the landscape of WWE. The reason I said Paul Heyman’s name and Brock Lesnar’s name is because I was not supposed to. Persona non-grata. To me it’s not that big of a deal, mentioning these two guys names, but everybody, because they knew the rules and parameters and that would specifically piss somebody off, I said it. To me, I’m getting away with murder, but I haven’t even kicked the dog. Everything I said was related to everything on television. Same with that line. If you want to think I was talking about somebody because I was talking about currency and bucks, that’s on you, but that’s the magic of CM Punk. I know where the line is. I say and do things that make you go, ‘This is phony bullshit, but that guy. That guy is real.’ If now I’m real and I’m absolutely insane and everyone backstage hates me and I’m this diabolical person who is going to whip your ass if you do some fucked up shit. Great.”