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John Cena Doesn’t Know Or Care What Original Plans For Rock & Travis Scott Were For His Heel Turn

December 10, 2025 | Posted by Jeremy Thomas
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John Cena originally had involvement from The Rock and Travis Scott in his heel turn, and while those plans were changed he doesn’t care what they originally were. Scott and Rock were in the ring for Cena’s heel turn on Cody Rhodes at Elimination Chamber, with Cena making the turn at the Rock’s instruction in storyline.

The Rock didn’t end up showing back up for any sort of follow-up, and Scott only appeared at WrestleMania where he got laid out by Rhodes before Cena picked up the win. Those plans were reportedly changed from the original idea. Cena appeared on Insight With Chris Van Vliet and said he didn’t know what the plan was, noting he’s “always the last to know.” He also has no idea whether there were plans for a match with The Rock. You can see highlights sent along by the show below:

On the Original Plan for Rock and Travis Scott:

“Who cares? It doesn’t matter. We can talk about what could have been until the cows come home. And I think that’s what’s great about the people who are left standing. Certainly me and Cody. What’s the change? this? All right, let’s go. I don’t dwell for one second on what could have been, because what could have been is Brock doesn’t leave for the NFL and there’s no John Cena.”

On Whether There Could Have Been a Match with Rock:

“Could there be anything? That’s the thing that sucks about what could have been, it’s not what it is.”

On Whether It Was Talked About:

“I don’t care. First of all, I’m always the last to know. It doesn’t trickle down to me. If you watch Unreal, that process is genuine. ‘I talked to Rock and then the last guy I gotta call is John.’ I’m usually the last guy they call because I’m the easiest. ‘Yeah, let’s do it. No problem. I’m in.’ So I don’t sweat the [small stuff]. ‘Yo, we don’t have those guys anymore.’ Cool, what do you want to do? We would like to do this. We need you to start being more competitive. We want to put you in these matches. We were going to build to this. That’s over. I didn’t even get that. Okay, fine, great. What are we doing now? That’s what’s tough.

“I think it’s great to talk about. It gives good argument, gives good perspective, of like, how do they book this stuff? A lot of that stuff’s beyond control of even the people who own the sandbox. If I decide to walk, I have contractual obligations, but they I’m not gonna be there on the 13th. Like, if I decide that, you know, and they’ll figure it out. I saw Austin get fired, you know what I’m saying. I saw Brock leave. I saw, you know, Dwayne take his break, and I don’t sweat any of those guys for what they did. Austin was worn out. Brock was probably going to assault somebody in an airport, and Dwayne had such great opportunities, I don’t fault people for being like, I can’t do this right now. McAfee being burned out behind the booth. The guy has got so many opportunities, dude, you got to just focus on what you can do. I don’t sweat them for that, but sh*t changes. Open opportunity for Wade Barrett, and I love listening to that guy on TV. Not that I didn’t like Pa,t but I really like listening to Stu [Bennett]. So I don’t really sweat it, but could there have been? That’s why I don’t choose my opponents.”

On Not Choosing His Opponents:

“Only thing I wanted to do, the only idea I gave was about Saturday Night’s Main Event on the 13th, saying it should not be a John Cena show. If everybody’s saying you’re going out on your own terms, which is BS, because I want to do it forever. Okay, you have an idea of this is how I want John to go out. You do. I have an idea of how I want to go out. And how I want to go out is not by folks remembering what I did. I want a chance to perform and do some good. You want to sprinkle in moments and memories to understand and make that last match more meaningful, fine, but let’s use the rest of our two hours and show the future of the business.

“That’s how I want to go out, because when I came in, there was a gold medalist who’s like, I’ll work with the kid. To be on a sold-out show in Chicago and hear that noise, I was already hooked, but that’s it. I want to give NXT kids a chance to be there, and I want to give major WWE superstars a chance to be on the card. It’s a limited thing. It’s not WrestleMania, it’s only limited spots, but that’s how I want to go out. And there’ll be people to criticize that. My theory, or my perspective was, if you do a whole show on John, two things can happen. Too much, not enough. No one’s ever gonna be like, nailed it.”